Backgammon Online

09-Apr-2014
14:23 PDT

I didn't misunderstand you Guthers, your comment has to be a joke. If someone goes on holiday for 2 weeks why shouldn't they set a 2 week vacation mode??? Its probably inconceivable to you but I wouldn't actually play backgammon online while on holiday (even if I had an internet connection).

Nothing you say makes much sense. Your cohesive strategy/ speed comment is complete rubbish and your rationale for reducing the number of tournaments people can play simultaneously is completely illogical.

09-Apr-2014
14:41 PDT

...makes the most measured post to the original topic. For what it is worth there are other competitive options for ZE players. Try the non-ZE tournaments which you can find by doing a quick survey of the forum. These so-called Champions Tournaments (CTs) have different rules and paces of play depending on what the host decides. In some CT's players are required to finish their games by a certain date or incur a penalty. You can probably find a CT that fits your own pace of play. The beauty is you have the option to play or not play in any CT depending on your comfort level with the rules set up by the host. If you don't like any of the options you can always volunteer to host a CT!

Some friendly advice for how to deal with snide comments. Ignore them. Don't lower yourself to their level. Internet bullies are 10 feet tall and bullet proof and can muster the courage to type things from their computers that they would never have the courage to say to your face. However, if it becomes repetitive, don’t put up with it -- report it to ZE using the 'REPORT ABUSE' and 'CONTACT US' links. Although ZE will likely not respond to the ideas put forth in this forum regarding pace of play, one thing they will not tolerate is childish behavior. Just ask Sideshowbob2012/Darthvader/Athena/Nemesis999/poiuyt. Cheers!  

09-Apr-2014
15:20 PDT

You can't force people to be considerate.

09-Apr-2014
23:17 PDT

Dear all,

I believe that playing fast is very beneficial for every BG game, as you remain focused within a particular game. I also believe that it is a relevant point to address the different speeds of certain players.
It seems to me, but please correct me if I am wrong, that at the moment a tournament can last half a year and longer. As this is case, it is quite likely that people will take a few days off or may be even a couple of weeks. if you start with a tournament, you really do not know how far you will get and one cannot deny a person participating at a tournament, because they will go on holiday in 4 months.
With more than 200 players with all their individual schedules, different cultures around the world, different kinds of work, eventually I believe it is important to be prepared that these kind tournaments simply will take their time, as fortunately we are all humans and we all need our space..Imagine what it would be like if 1000 players participated .....  

In addition I believe it is a truly excellent that chwaqaaahmed as initiated these fast knock-out tournaments. It is lots of work to host a tournament and keep everybody happy. And now David Cool is such a great sport and is now hosting the third tournament.

So good luck to you and I am really curious what new ideas will pop up to create new solutions to existing problems / irritations.

Anna Marina

10-Apr-2014
03:42 PDT

How on earth can a site where you are given 2 or 3 days per move be conducive to fast games!?! Most people play 20+ games simultaneously so how the hell does playing faster affect your strategy!?! Can people stop posting these deluded reasons for wanting fast games when in reality you're just childish and impatient. If you want fast games I suggest you download an app and play real time backgammon... Or God forbid play on a real backgammon board!

As for any abuse that has been referred to... come on!!! Peter Hill is just pointing out what any normal person would think after reading some of this crap. "Shattered nerves" absolutely pathetic!!! That's not abuse, it's an opinion that would be shared by anyone unfortunate enough to read it.

10-Apr-2014
04:31 PDT

I think you and the others are mistaking the TIME LIMIT of 2 or 3 days as a guide for how often it is desirable to move. You should be playing as quickly as you can, as this is the most considerate way to play for your opponent.

I have played in live tournaments without clocks where one or two players have held up everybody else due to slow play, whether by carefully considering every single move for several minutes, reluctance to turn the cube when it is ridiculous to play on without doing so, or complete lack of urgency to get on with the next game, chatting away and so on. On one occasion, after waiting 2 hours for my next opponent to win through, he then decided in the middle of the first game he needed to get food and drink from the buffet supplied! Absolutely infuriating and unfair on me as you can imagine I was steaming by that stage.

The point is, if you can't be bothered to play quickly, others might, and if you are the only one or one of a few holding things up, couldn't you just concentrate on finishing one or two games to let them get on with it? Acey Deucy #21 is a very good case. I can't play another one while I'm still technically alive, and the other group has been finished for weeks.

10-Apr-2014
04:53 PDT

David Cool opened a thread because of what he regarded as a problem: unsportsmanlike conduct on the part of someone.

Can we discuss this intelligently?

I happen to agree with him. One person should not be holding up an entire tournament hostage to his little mind games. I know this site is not conducive to fast games but 63 days is RIDICULOUS.

As for the way I express myself, maybe a couple of you have cultural issues? Well I have an issue with: "some people are beyond a joke", "...needs urgent mental treatment", "crap", "absolutely pathetic". They are indicative of people who need to first think before they put ink to paper.

10-Apr-2014
04:57 PDT

In answer to:

@yiannakos - you say hardly "hurry" material as though you're quoting me. I've never used the word "hurry" in either of my previous posts so what are you referring to?

I was referring to:

"Why exactly are you in such a hurry to complete a game anyway?"
in your posting "Nothing like time wasting in football! "

PS. Thanks for debating intelligently

10-Apr-2014
09:06 PDT

...said by the same guy who said "people take holidays shattering opponents nerves so they don't know what way is up"

10-Apr-2014
09:36 PDT

No, skinhead, said by the same person who asked if we can discuss the subject matter intelligently.
Apparently not as this has descended into personal attacks. I think we have reached the point of diminishing returns in this thread.

PS. In the future, don't use quotes if you are going to misquote me